Windscreen installation - Windschutzscheibe installation

[Daniel Shapiro]

Is it necessary to first install the aluminum insert into the windscreen rubber before installing the windscreen in the bus?

Thanks!

Ist es zu zuerst anbringt den Aluminiumeinsatz in den Windfanggummi, bevor man anbringt, Windschutzscheibe im Bus notwendig?

Danke!

[benzindave]

Hi Daniel..yes, the moulding, rubber and glass all install together into the body opening.
I usually fit the rubber on the glass and then lay the moulding in place in order to check its contour and straighten if needed. Then lube the groove in the rubber and fully install the moulding. I then flip the assembly over and run string around the lip and then install the assembly into the body.
It is a good idea to apply sealant in the body opening before installing the glass.
Good luck!
Dave Hinnant
Benzin Motor Works
Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA

[Daniel Shapiro]

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the info on installing the winscrren on the o319. I was wondering about the use of sealant where the rubber meets the body. I was considering applying a bead of sealant (silcone) under the outer lip of the rubber to seal it to the body after installation in the vehicle. Seems like a neater way to go.

By the way, I made the windscreen rubber into one continous piece by glueing the ends together with Loctite 401.

The problem I'm currently having is fitting the aluminum molding into the groove in the rubber. The corners (especially the lower corners with the small radius) are challenging! I'm considering first glueing the rubber to the windscreen edge so it stays put while I'm fitting the aluminum molding.

Your comments and suggestions on the above are appriciated!

Thanks,

Daniel

[Daniel Shapiro]

I sucessfully installed the winscreen in the o319!

Thank you Benzindave and Compay for your helpful advice.

I have a couple of tips that I learned and wanted to provide to the Forum.

1. The best way to re-shape the aluminum insert is to used the glass as a pattern instead of the rubber. In other words, don't install the rubber on the windscreen - fit the aluminum to the glass. Don't worry about scratching the glass as aluminum is very soft.

The inner side of the bottom part of the aluminum "T" should touch or nearly touch to the outside edge of the windscreen glass. It turns out that the slot in the rubber corresponds very closely to this position.

2. The biggest problen I had was keeping the aluminum trim from popping out in the corners when fitting the rubber to the body. I had to helpers on the outside who kept their hands on the corners, while I was on the inside pulling the rope.

If after installation you notice that the aluminum trim has come out of the rubber a little bit, do NOT try to force the aluminum trim into the rubber. It didn't work for me.
What does work is to instead push the rubber into the aluminum.
I had this problem in the upper left corner and used 2 wooden tounge depressors (like the doctor puts on your tounge before he tells you to say "Ahhh") stacked to double the thickness. I inserted them from the outside between the body and the rubber. Press the aluminum with your thumb while using the tounge depressor as a lever to push the rubber into the aluminum. Worked great! Hope this make sense.

Regards,

Daniel

[Compay]

thanks for the tips daniel!!

maybe next spring (2008) i have to do this work again
while this winter i will do a restoration on my 319
maybe I will make a movie of the windscreen installation and
put it on you Tube, so you can laugh!!!!
the idea of first using the windscreen as a mal for the aluminium insert
is a good idea

maybe ne nice to see some photo's of your 319

all the best!!!

give some good advices to your president too!!!!
let him work as a windscreen fitter....maybe he can do that better

[Daniel Shapiro]

Hi Compay!

A video of windscreen installation sounds like a great idea! I could be both instructional and entertaining. I'll look forward to seeing it.

I plan to post photos of my O319 bus/camper before the end of the year. I'd like to wait until the original wheel covers are finished before photo session. I'm currently in the process of restoring them and hope to have them finished for a local car show on November 25.

I'm afraid the president is not interested in my thoughts and I wouldn't let him near my bus - he'd likely break something!

Best wishes with your 319 restoration.

Regards,

Daniel

PS: I attached a photo from a party a few weeks ago to celebrate completion of the bus. Notice the O309 wheel covers. More photos soon.

[Compay]

nice bus daniel

looks really really nice!!!!
congratulations
i have just sended the photo to a men i know
who have exactly the same 319 and is restoring it

i have just a simple firebrigade bus
but i enloy it very much
and with the two big doors at the back
its very functional too

all the best

rob